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Episode 043 Conscious Voting Through Political Curiosity

In this episode, Angie and Haley explore their political mental models in order to question their own assumptions and ideologies. They also share clips from past guests, John Feehery and Spencer Gerrol, regarding presidential power in the USA. Additionally, they discuss some helpful resources, like the quiz on, to help increase awareness of the complexity underneath most political “talking points”.

Show Notes

Quotes from this episode:

“Not everything aligns with what we may believe.” - Angie Cross

“Power in the US is unusually decentralised for a strong nation. The fact that there are so many levers to that power should undermine narratives of presidential leadership. Alas, such complexity would not help television ratings.” - Erik Loomis

“The unelected bureaucrats in this country (U.S.A.) have more power over our daily lives than most of us recognize.” - John Feehery

“It’s easy for us to get angry, but it’s time for us to get smart because we have a democracy in crisis.” - Annie Leonard

“An average 43% of Americans identified politically as independents in 2014” - Gallup

“If we listen hard enough, we can dig down to the complexity hidden underneath the talking points and hyperbole and have positive, productive conversations with the other side that will actually move our country forward.” - Joe McGovern

“Simple us-versus-them, right-or-wrong, black-and-white games are much easier to process than the complexity of a pluralist system. But clearly, that simple game is not the best we can do.” - Michelle Holiday


Resources from this episode:

I Side With - an online voting guide and tool for conscious voting

The Other Side Documentary: A Liberal American Explores Conservative America - by Joe McGovern

The Story of Citizens United v FEC - by Annie Leonard



Episode 042 The Neuroscience Behind Your Vote

In this episode, Angie interviews Spencer Gerrol, human behavior specialist, applied neuroscience expert, and founder and CEO of SPARK Experience. Spencer shares the results from a research study he performed to gather biofeedback data from both Trump and Clinton supporters. He also discusses the importance of valuing and understanding emotions in order to make more mindful decisions.

Show Notes

Quotes from this episode:

“You can not, as a human being, make a decision without emotion. It is impossible.” - Spencer Gerrol

“Every decision is influenced by emotion, emotion plays a major factor in every decision you make in life, and without emotion you can’t even decide.” - Spencer Gerrol

“We think we are rational beings, and if we go on assuming that and not really understanding how we make decisions in our everyday lives, then we actually act even more irrationally.” - Spencer Gerrol  

“It’s very valuable for people to understand the value of their subconscious.” - Spencer Gerrol

“If people can recognize the value of allowing themselves to turn off the conscious brain and let their subconscious do what it’s designed to do, then we would all be better off, or at least we will understand our decisions in a more real-world way.” - Spencer Gerrol

“With great power comes great responsibility.” - Attributed to Spiderman

“If we can get deeper insights as to why people are making decisions & how emotion has an influence on that, we can lead innovation in a much more real way.” - Spencer Gerrol

“I don’t devalue big data, I do think it’s important, but if it’s the only way and people aren’t digging into the human-side, we are missing half of the equation.” - Spencer Gerrol


Resources from this episode:

'Whom are you voting for? This guy can read your mind.' - Washington Post article featuring SPARK Experience who "measured people’s brain waves to examine how much attention and the severity of emotion people felt while watching clips of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. They found that what people feel and what people say they feel are rarely in sync.(Alice Li/The Washington Post)"