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Episode 025 System Theories, Racism & Human Relationships

In this episode, Haley interviews TK Coleman to discuss how humans allow their conflicting mental models to influence the way they handle controversial topics like racism. TK also shares how understanding context and patterns within human systems ultimately empowers us to actively contribute to human progress.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

“The perception of a problem is a problem.” - TK Coleman

"Your identity is larger than your behavior." - TK Coleman

“If human beings were only capable of treating problems that everyone was effected by, nothing productive would ever get done.” - TK Coleman

“[Politics and the left/right dichotomy] cause us to miss out on the essence of what people are saying.” - TK Coleman

“Politics has dominated the discussion on race.” - TK Coleman

“We are not human doings, we are human beings.” -  Neil Anderson, Victory Over the Darkness

“Reality is objective, but meaning is contextual.” - Barbara Hanson, General Systems Theory: Beginning with Wholes

“We have made enormous progress in teaching everyone that racism is bad. Where we seem to have dropped the ball… is in teaching people what racism actually IS.” - Jon Stewart

 

Resources from this episode: 

You can find TK Coleman on TwitterFacebook, and Medium

General Systems Theory by Ludwig Von Bertalanffy

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Episode 024 Discover Your Intercultural Intelligence

In this episode, Angie interviews motivational speaker, author, and leadership coach, Gloria Burgess, to discuss patterns and systems within human history. Gloria explains that because we are truly interconnected systems, how we relate to ourselves and each other matters. We all have the ability to gain “intercultural intelligence” in order to move through the world and systems differently.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"When you allow racial disparity and institutional inequity to affect one part of the country, eventually it's coming back to get everyone." - Tim Wise

"Light comes in at the edges and end of a pattern, so a new pattern can begin" - Gloria Burgess

"The institution of racism, is something we built with power and privilege..if we built it we can unbuild it." - Gloria Burgess

"When we are overwhelmed and confused... we reach for the old maps, the routine responses, what worked in the past...But to navigate life today, we definitely need new maps... The maps we need are in us, but not in only one of us. If we read the currents and signs together, we'll find our way through.” - Margaret Wheatley

 

Resources from this episode:

The Human Library Project

9 Surprising Reasons Why You Should Smile More

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Episode 023 Throwback to 2015

In this episode, Angie and Haley reflect upon the Human Current’s journey of curiosity, learning, and exploration in 2015. They listen to a few clips and highlights from some past guests including: Michele Battle-Fisher, Jason DykstraIsaac Morehouse, and Bonnie Caver. The complexity team compiled this episode to further explore and validate the theory that a complexity or systems thinking lens can be used in all aspects of life.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"We started this podcast as a passion project based on our mentor, Douglas Drane's idea of getting the concept of complexity and systems thinking out to the world." - Angie Cross

"We have interviewed some great minds from fields of study like Healthcare Policy, Education, Entrepreneurship, Marketing, Finance, Economics, and Emergency Planning." - Angie Cross and Haley Campbell

“Whether we look at team dynamics, the evolution of strategies, or the behavior of markets–the pattern of local interactions, emergence, and feedback is apparent.” -Martin Reeves, Simon Levin, and Daichi Ueda

 

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Episode 022 Turning Affordable Housing on It’s Head

In this episode Angie and Lindsey interview Walter Moreau, the Executive Director for Foundation Communities, a nonprofit which creates housing where families succeed. Walter discusses how the foundation leverages a systems-approach to affordable housing in order to provide a successful, sustainable program for families. His inspirational stories help paint a picture of how networks can work together to influence change within systemic problems.  


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

“It is often tempting to assume that the agents of a system are all basically the same” - Harnessing Complexity

“Beyond systems thinking [approaching affordable housing] is more chaos theory...you have to be able to roll with the ups and downs of development” - Walter Moreau


“Affordable housing isn’t for ‘those people’, it’s for us - people we know [our community].” - Walter Moreau

 

Resources from this episode:

You can find Foundation Communities on Twitter.

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Episode 021 Cultivating Social Resilience

In this episode, we interview sociologist and fellow podcaster Josh Morgan. He is the host of “The Plural of You”, a podcast inspired by stories of human good. We discuss how complex social problems influence our human networks and relationships. And, Josh helps us identify different ways in which ordinary people can influence systems-level issues, like social trust.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"A society grows great when its people plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in." - Ancient Greek Proverb


"What makes humanity so interesting is that our complexities can't be explained with one theory because we're so highly adaptive." - Josh Morgan


"I feel my purpose as a researcher is to answer questions about complex social problems and report on them as simply as I can." - Josh Morgan

 

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Episode 020 The Energy that Binds Us

In this episode we say goodbye to Stacy as she moves on to new adventures and introduce our next guest, Josh Morgan, a sociologist and fellow podcaster. We discuss the meaning of the term HumanCurrent, which encompasses the complex connections that shape and influence us: our evolving human mind, our personal and professional networks, our ideas and our history. We each play a role in the development and evolution of our humanity and the energy that binds us, our human current.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"We share ideas with each other, yet we can each create uniquely from the same idea." - Stacy Hale

"We ebb and flow, expand beyond our current situation, and connect to other networks." - Angie Cross

"The HumanCurrent is putting humanity into complexity, a very intelligent and academic subject." - Stacy Hale

"I try to encourage everyone to see humanity as this whole, but at the same time recognize that we are all constituent parts of this whole...we all have a role to play whether we like it or not." - Josh Morgan

"I become interested in the complexity of things like social hierarchies, just to understand what structures, if any, support these problems (like social trust), as well as how they affect social resilience among different populations." - Josh Morgan

Note:Although we are saddened to lose her wonderful voice, lively spirit, and innovative mind, we are forever changed and connected to our friend and co-host, Stacy Hale. And, we celebrate that she is moving on to another amazing opportunity -- Cheers to Stacy!

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Episode 019 Let's Work Happy!

What does happiness have to do with complexity, networks, and ecosystems? In this episode, Angie and Stacy explore this question, and what happiness at work means to the members of the HumanCurrent team. 


Show Notes


Resources from this episode:

World Happiness Report

The Happiness Advantage

“75 percent of job successes are predicted by your optimism levels, your social support, and your ability to see stress as a challenge instead of as a threat.” - Shawn Achor

Being Happy at Work Matters

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Episode 018 Preparing for Complexity in Emergency Management

In this episode, Stacy speaks with Thomas Appleyard who is the Manager of Planning and Programs with Ontario's Ministry of Health and Long Term Care. He discusses how complexity theory can be used to plan for crisis and emergency situations by giving real world examples. 


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"A self-organizing system is coordinated, but doesn't have a coordinator." - Thomas Appleyard

"Planning in emergency management is all about connections and relationship building" - Thomas Appleyard

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Episode 017 Emergent Ecosystems

Angie & Stacy introduce more of the HumanCurrent team and explore stories of emergence in everyday social ecosystems. 


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"A company is really defined by it’s people & the current of information that runs between them" - Stacy Hale

 

Resources from this episode:

From Lifecycle to Ecocycle: Renewal via Destruction and Encouraging Diversity for Sustainability

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Episode 016 The New Reputation Economy

We live in a reputation economy, where intangible assets like trust make up 85% of a brand's market value. In this episode, we ask "reputation whisperer" Bonnie Caver of Reputation Lighthouse about how to design a solid ecosystem for your brand's reputation.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"60% of purchasing decisions are based on the company, 40% are based on the actual product or service" - Bonnie Caver

"A company’s brand is an ecosystem co-evolving with it's employees, stakeholders, and customers." - Stacy Hale

7 Dimensions of Reputation:

products & services
citizenship (are you engaged in the community?)
innovation
workplace
governance
leadership (ie thought leadership)
performance

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Episode 015 Why Complexity? A Thursday Throwback Reflection

What is complexity? And what does it have to do with work? In this quarterly reflection, Angie and Stacy have a casual conversation to look back at what they've learned and discovered


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

“The only useful model is the one you can draw on the back of a napkin from memory” - Dave Snowden

"We can introduce loose frameworks and processes that enable people to be more adaptive" - Stacy Hale

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Episode 014 Wellness is Contagious

Angie & Stacy ask: Where does wellness live? Is it in our minds, our health systems, or is it a complex system of shared responsibilities? In this episode we explore how the spread of information affects our health. How do you know when you've created a culture--and whose responsibility is it to create change? 


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

“There are no side effects, just effects.” - John Sterman

“Like an epidemic, our wellness could also be contagious.” - Angela Cross

“We as individuals do have agency when we begin to see the systems we are a part of and broaden our mental models” - Stacy Hale

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Episode 013 Michele Battle-Fisher: Public Health as a Complex System

Public health policy scholar Michele Battle-Fisher reveals how systems thinking can bring new light to how disease, wellness and the effects of policy change spread through populations. From food deserts to "policy puffins", we learn some new things about the very real impact of chaos in healthcare, why time scales matter in measuring system impact, and why we need systems thinking education for tomorrow's policy-makers. 


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"To be that lone voice is difficult for systems thinkers" - Michele Battle-Fisher

"I strongly believe that the innovation we need will come from bringing complexity and systems thinking into the discussion" - Michele Battle-Fisher

Michele Battle-Fisher is on Twitter & Linkedin

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Episode 012 System Thinkers Share Their Stories

Ever had trouble coming up with a single "right" answer? You're not alone. "Though we may be across the world, we breathe the same air," says public health policy scholar Michele Battle-Fisher. In this episode, interview guests and systems thinkers from our audience tell their stories of thinking outside the textbook, eureka moments, and the radical learning experiences that brought them into the systems thinking community.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been." - Wayne Gretzky

"Our knowledge is a network of experiences, people and ideas." - Stacy Hale

"I think that leaders and innovators that are standing out these days are finding ways to parle their passions their life experiences into professional skills and vice versa and isn’t that how it should be?" - Stacy Hale

"I think the problem that I have with best practices is the word “best”, because it implies that there is no better way to do things, but as we learn and as we apply our outside of work experiences to work in vice versa, we find better ways to do things through the way that we evolve with the systems that we are apart of." - Stacy Hale


"Health is messy, health is complicated, and the elements that pertain to health are interdependent." - Michele Battle Fisher

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Episode 011 Isaac Morehouse on How to Be Your Own Resume

In this episode we interview Isaac Morehouse, founder of Praxis, writer, and podcaster who's obsessed with human freedom, education, and entrepreneurship. Praxis is a one year program where you learn by doing. Participants work alongside founders and CEOs at an amazing company while also completing a rigorous education experience which includes one-on-one coaching, self-guided projects, hard and soft skills training, and more. Isaac talks to us about the explorer mentality, the eureka moment, and shifts in the complex system of higher education.


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"The idea that you can achieve expert status in a classroom and then step into the market is silly. I think the dichotomy of working and learning will continue to blur." - Isaac Morehouse


"We believe (at Praxis) that all ideas are networked, so personal transformation leads to organizational transformation." - Isaac Morehouse


"Personal mastery is a little different than being a subject matter expert in one thing. It’s a network of skills, passions and ideas." - Isaac Morehouse

Isaac Morehouse is on Twitter & Linkedin

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Episode 010 SuperEducation

Stacy & Angie explore different perspectives on learning, and ask their mentor (and listeners), "What has been your most radical educational experience?" 


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

“New movement of finding knowledge or education through experience” - Stacy Hale

“What if schools helped us realize what we don’t know?” - Angela Cross

“I attended several Ivy League schools, but my most radical learning experience was working at a drugstore when I was 14 and making sure people are taken care of in a beautiful way, which is really all you do in business anyway.” - Doug Drane

"We all walk around running different value systems and different mental models and we filter our learning through those perspectives." - Stacy Hale

"Real learning gets to the heart by what it means to be human." - Peter Senge

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Episode 009 "Systems Citizens"

Peter Senge referred to "systems citizenship" as the leadership mandate for this millennium. So how can we all be better systems citizens?   In this episode we ask real systems citizens (practitioners and educators) at Royal Roads University in Canada how studying complexity helps them understand the world and solve real world problems.   What is complexity's "definable, deliverable gift to the world? How can we use it to influence and make impact, and even grow ourselves as people? 


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"The way I look at systems, it is a continuum and remember when we talk about boundaries in systems thinking, I'd like to think that boundaries are set by the discussions that are taking place." - Kassam Habibullah

"For me, it [systems thinking] requires me to be aware about my own assumptions, preconceptions, the way I see the world, the way I perceive the world, my expectations and being really self-aware about those and be intentional about challenging how I look at situations, how I look at systems, how I perceive it, forces me to be open and flexible and looking at different ways to get to a destination." - Kathy Sturgeon

 

 

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Episode 008 Trust the Process

Complexity shouldn't make people anxious--in fact it should make life simpler. With all this talk of emergence and working with uncertainty, it seems like there's an element of "trust the process" at work in putting complex systems theory to work in the workplace. What does that look like? In this casual conversation, Stacy & Angie ask, what does it mean to trust the process? How do you structure your attitude, mental models and workplace for emergence? How can an understanding of life as networks, and an awareness of our own value systems & mental models bring us a sense of personal mastery?


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

Yet every person in the world is dealing with a multiplicity of units and combinations of forces which make up his entire daily life and which create his environment and life circumstances.” - Alice Bailey

"Maybe it's not so much trying to achieve the ultimate certainty that we need to be concerned with, but being responsible with certainty." - Stacy Hale

How do you use big data and yet still take into account the heuristics and passing on knowledge? Angie Cross

"The wisdom that your grandmother shared with you, on the porch with a glass of iced tea is still important." - Stacy Hale

"Even though we're becoming complexity aware and we're understanding the importance of networks in the evolution of our societies, our economies, ourselves, still we’re clinging to our big data to draw reductionist conclusions." - Stacy Hale

"By being aware of our mental models, we can see how everything that happens is filtered through us and we can guide that." - Stacy Hale

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Episode 007 Certainty Merchants

"Our personal relationship with uncertainty is fundamental to being human, yet over the last 30 years we’ve begun outsourcing it to other people. You have a relationship to those big questions." Climate change, inequality, the rising cost of college tuition... all complex problems, but not complicated. Out of touch with the rhythms and interdependencies of our natural environment, we look to statistics and experts to help us make major decisions. Are we missing something? In Part 2 of our interview with Diego Espinosa, we learn from a former money manager about how our addiction to certainty over the last three decades has created a whole industry of specialists who make money using statistics to sell the promise of certainty and security--and it's making us more vulnerable. What happens when we stop listening to the the certainty merchants? Can we leverage our strongest social bonds to regain resilience in an uncertain universe? What can the complex patterns of the natural world teach us about ourselves?


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"This is a very personal request that I'm making of people, to reestablish and re engage with uncertainty in their lives. Think about the fact that the future is uncertain. How do you feel about that? How does it make you feel?" - Diego Espinosa

"I think if we see ourselves as a little bit less special, a little bit more part of nature that we’ll naturally start to think about things in a complex systems way." - Diego Espinosa

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Episode 006 Information, Ants & Inequality

Most of us are unaware of how our actions lead to self-organizing behavior." In this episode we talk with Diego Espinosa, founder of the complexity based Sistema Research, about the way information travels in ant colonies, financial meltdowns, and human social networks--and the things these complex systems all have in common: feedback loops. In a complex world where we are bombarded with false signals about certainty, how can we regain resilience? 


Show Notes


Quotes from this episode:

"Preferential attachment is the tendency for certain nodes within a system that have a lot of connections already to make more connections." - Stacy Hale

"A self organizing system is basically a system in which order emerges from the different pieces following simple rules and interacting with each other and that order is kind not mystical, but kind of magical in a sense." - Diego Espinosa

"The way we wanted to hold on to the certainty was by essentially borrowing money." - Diego Espinosa

"Take back control of your personal relationship with uncertainty." - Diego Espinosa

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